Thursday, October 29, 2009

12 Angry Men

This isn't really a review, so I've not headed it as such.
Lois and I have watched this movie last night and tonight.
It's fascinating, in that it shows us the interactions of a jury attempting to deliberate on a charge of murder.
At the start they are 11 for guilty and 1 for not guilty.
As the play progresses, the bloke who was at first for "not guilty" (played with consummate skill by Jack Lemmon) manages to swing the jury round from "guilty".
Just before the end there is a dramatic/tense moment from George C. Scott, who holds the balance in his hands.
A dramatic movie, probably a play in a previous incarnation.
A fascinating study of character types and influence.
No women in the jury!
After this we watched the penultimate episode of "Gormsby" the 2nd series - very LOL stuff (but take of your PC-tinted lenses before you watch!).

9 comments:

  1. How 'bout that - I bought a DVD of the remake on Sunday. Yes, it was a play even before the original movie was made, which helps explains the lack of women since it predates any of us. It's interesting that the original (which I saw in primary school) rates higher on IMDB than the remake does.

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  2. IMDB?
    Ian Mander......???
    I guess the one I watched was the remake?
    Who's in the original?
    And how old is it?

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  3. "I guess the one I watched was the remake" isn't a question. it's a statement. putting a question mark on the end of it doesn't make it ok to put a question mark on the end of it. whichmeans you shouldnt have in the first place. n00b.

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  4. Is it not?
    When is a question not a question?
    Really?
    When?
    Is a question?
    Not a question?
    To be or not to be?
    There are no real rules in English??
    You know?
    Only conventions??
    Eh?
    So??

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  5. It was actually a teleplay first in 1954 (which got three Emmy Awards), then rewritten as a play in 1955 with various tweaks over the years like 12 Angry Women (I hope the defendant was a girl accused of killing her mother), then the first movie in 1957 (nominated for three Academy Awards but lost to The Bridge On The River Kwai for all of them, although it did win a Golden Bear in the Berlin Film Festival), then the remake teleplay in 1997, and the play was finally staged at some place called Broadway in 2004.

    Wikipedia says 'In 2007 [the original movie] was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".'

    We use conventions in language to help keep ideas separate and distinct, in a not too dissimilar way to how time is used (but not by us) to keep events separate. Unfortunately conventions of language don't seem to be a major consideration to many sellers on TradeMe, as they often answer questions with a question. Peasants?

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  6. Thank you for those wise and interesting words, Mr Mander.
    I was thinking a Spoonerised version of 12 Angry Men could be 12 Mangere Hens (the Ambury Farm Park Murders).
    Fascinating ideas about language and temporal concepts.
    Good to have you back on Blog!
    G.

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  7. Strangely enough, the occasional person ends a question with a full stop, such as, by way of random example, "what the heck are you on about." To do this I imagine that such a person must surely be a noob? :?

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  8. ian stop sending me retarded insulting emails.

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  9. OK, not so random; it was Alexander himself.

    You know, if you unsubscribe from this thread you won't receive the insulting update notifications. And if you go to bed at a reasonable time you won't get so grumpy, or take things so personally when they are not, and you'll think better.

    That's weird, Gerald. I housesat 10 hens just round the corner from AFP last month. One of them did come close to not surviving. Chooks don't have much room for brains. However, Alexanders do.

    IMDB.com is the Internet Movie Database - a great resource for all things movie.

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